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03/04/2024 08:30 AM House FINANCE

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08:35:56 AM Start
08:36:34 AM HB268 || HB270
08:37:04 AM Subcommittee Closeout Reports
08:42:19 AM Department of Education and Early Development
09:03:05 AM Department of Public Safety
09:11:18 AM Department of Commerce, Community, and Eccomonic Development
09:18:58 AM Department of Corrections
09:32:22 AM Adjourn
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+= HB 268 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP; AM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 270 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Subcommittee Closeout Reports TELECONFERENCED
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       March 4, 2024                                                                                            
                         8:35 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:35:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                     
to order at 8:35 a.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative DeLena Johnson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Julie Coulombe                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Edra Morledge,  Staff, Representative Julie  Coulombe; Conor                                                                    
Bell, Fiscal  Analyst, Legislative Finance  Division; Morgan                                                                    
Foss,  Fiscal Analyst,  Legislative  Finance Division;  Laib                                                                    
Allensworth,  Staff,  Representative  Bryce  Edgmon;  Alexei                                                                    
Painter, Director, Legislative Finance Division.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 268    APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP; AM                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          HB 268 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 270    APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 268 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUBCOMMITTEE CLOSEOUT REPORTS                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION and EARLY DEVELOPMENT                                                                              
     DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT  OF   COMMERCE,  COMMUNITY,   AND  ECCOMONIC                                                                    
     DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 268                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  making capital  appropriations; making                                                                    
     supplemental  appropriations; making  reappropriations;                                                                    
     making  appropriations  under   art.  IX,  sec.  17(c),                                                                    
     Constitution  of   the  State   of  Alaska,   from  the                                                                    
     constitutional budget  reserve fund; and  providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 270                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:36:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^SUBCOMMITTEE CLOSEOUT REPORTS                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:37:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION and EARLY DEVELOPMENT                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe introduced herself and her staff.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
EDRA  MORLEDGE, STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE JULIE  COULOMBE, read                                                                    
through  the finance  subcommittee  recommendations for  the                                                                    
Department of Education and Early Development (DEED)(copy                                                                       
on file):                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The   House  Finance   Budget   Subcommittee  for   the                                                                    
     Department of Education  and Early Development reviewed                                                                    
     the Governor's FY25 budget  proposal and recommends the                                                                    
     items contained in the below details.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     RECOMMENDATIONS:                                                                                                           
     Fund Source: (dollars are in thousands)                                                                                    
     Unrestricted General Funds (UGF) $84,105.9                                                                                 
     Designated General Funds (DGF) $25,293.4                                                                                   
     Other Funds $36,818.1                                                                                                      
     Federal Funds $270,464.3                                                                                                   
     Total $416,681.7                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Compared to  the FY25  Adjusted Base,  the Subcommittee                                                                    
     recommendations represent  an increase of  $15,192.0 in                                                                    
     UGF  (22.0%), a  decrease of  $85.2 in  Other funds  (-                                                                    
     0.2%),  and  an  increase  of $90.7  in  Federal  funds                                                                    
     (0.0%), for a total net increase of $15,197.5 (3.8%).                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Positions:                                                                                                                 
     Permanent Full-Time 279                                                                                                    
     Permanent Part-Time 10                                                                                                     
     Temporary 12                                                                                                               
     Total 301                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     BUDGET ACTION:                                                                                                             
         After holding four meetings and reviewing and                                                                       
          discussing   each  of   the  Governor's   proposed                                                                    
          transactions in  detail, the  Subcommittee adopted                                                                    
          the   Governor's  proposal   with  the   following                                                                    
          changes:                                                                                                              
         The subcommittee removed a $5,000.0 request for                                                                     
          the Alyeska Reading Academy and Institute (ARAI)                                                                      
          and adopted an amendment for $5,000.0 for the                                                                         
          Head Start Program.                                                                                                   
         The subcommittee removed an $84.9 request for an                                                                    
          Administrative    Assistant   position    in   the                                                                    
          Executive Administration allocation.                                                                                  
         The subcommittee removed a $1,200.0 request for                                                                     
          Coding in Minecraft licenses.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS:                                                                                                         
         $5,000.0  for   the  Alaska  Native   Science  and                                                                  
          Engineering Program.                                                                                                  
         $1,500.0  for   Career  and   Technical  Education                                                                  
          Initiatives.                                                                                                          
         $1,500.0   for  Teacher   Recruitment,  Retention,                                                                  
          Certification and Apprenticeship Development.                                                                         
         $650.0 for increased  costs for statewide academic                                                                  
          assessments.                                                                                                          
         $1,000.0  FY25-FY26  Multi-Year appropriation  for                                                                  
          the Alaska Resource Education Grant Program.                                                                          
         $1,000.0  for Grant  Funding for  Hunter Education                                                                  
          Program.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     SUBCOMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS:                                                                                              
     It  is  the  intent  of  the  Chair  to  recommend  the                                                                    
     Department of  Education and Early  Development partner                                                                    
     with the Alaska Department of  Fish and Game to utilize                                                                    
     their existing  hunting and fishing  education programs                                                                    
     for their  hunter education programs.  Additionally, it                                                                    
     is recommended that  the Department provide information                                                                    
     to the  full House  Finance Committee on  the increased                                                                    
     Mount Edgecumbe  High School  dorm management  and food                                                                    
     services contractual costs.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SUBCOMMITTEE AMENDMENTS:                                                                                                   
     The   Chair  set   an   amendment  deadline,   welcomed                                                                    
     amendments   from  all   members,  and   the  committee                                                                    
     entertained  five  amendments,   three  of  which  were                                                                    
     adopted as  changes to the Governor's  proposed budget,                                                                    
     as noted above.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ATTACHED    REPORTS:   The    House   Finance    Budget                                                                    
     Subcommittee  for  the   Department  of  Public  Safety                                                                    
     adopted the attached reports:                                                                                              
     Agency Totals                                                                                                              
         Transaction  Compare:   Adjusted  Base   to  House                                                                  
          Subcommittee                                                                                                          
         Transaction Compare:  Governor's Amended  to House                                                                  
          Subcommittee                                                                                                          
         Wordage                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:42:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  noted  that   there  was  a  $650,000                                                                    
increase  for  statewide   academic  assessments  under  the                                                                    
budget highlights section of  the recommendations report. He                                                                    
asked  how the  total  increase compared  to  the amount  of                                                                    
funding  that was  already in  place. He  wondered what  the                                                                    
specific reason was for the increase.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Coulombe   replied    that   during    the                                                                    
subcommittee  process,  there  was a  change  regarding  the                                                                    
science assessment. The schools  had switched to a different                                                                    
assessment tool but there had  been an oversight for science                                                                    
assessments. The increase would  fund the pursuit of updated                                                                    
science assessment tools to make  the process more efficient                                                                    
and  reduce the  number of  assessments that  students would                                                                    
need to take.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz asked how  much funding was already set                                                                    
aside for statewide assessments prior to the increase.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  relayed that  she  intended  to make  the                                                                    
subcommittee  a work  session  with  reduced formality.  She                                                                    
encouraged dialogue between committee members.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe would  follow up with Representative                                                                    
Ortiz.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  asked what the  purpose was of  the $5                                                                    
million  increment   for  the  Alaska  Native   Science  and                                                                    
Engineering Program (ANSEP).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe responded  that  the governor  felt                                                                    
strongly about the increment and it  had been in place for a                                                                    
significant  period   of  time.  She  understood   that  the                                                                    
increment would fund the operations of ANSEP.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:45:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  commented that  he  had  been involved  in                                                                    
ANSEP for years and the intent  of the increment was to grow                                                                    
the  program.  He  emphasized  that  the  program  had  been                                                                    
successful in  engaging individuals from  remote communities                                                                    
in topics  such as  advanced mathematics and  science, which                                                                    
were  topics  that  the individuals  would  not  necessarily                                                                    
learn  in remote  communities.  Due to  the  success of  the                                                                    
program, the  governor and  many other  individuals involved                                                                    
in  education thought  the program  should be  expanded into                                                                    
other areas.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe responded  to Representative  Stapp                                                                    
that the  purpose was  to deliver a  service to  high school                                                                    
students.  She  noted  that  it  would  not  be  a  one-time                                                                    
increment but would be added to the base budget.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp referred to  the $1.5 million increment                                                                    
for  teacher  certification  programs.  He  asked  how  many                                                                    
teachers could get certified for $1.5 million.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe replied that  the department did not                                                                    
have a  specific number of  newly certified teachers  as its                                                                    
goal.  There were  many different  elements involved  in the                                                                    
recruitment and retention process,  such as a implementing a                                                                    
marketing  program.  She  did   not  recall  there  being  a                                                                    
specific goal for the increment.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Johnson   added   that   she   would   like   the                                                                    
conversations in  the meeting to  focus on the  changes made                                                                    
by the subcommittees.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:48:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  referred to  the removal of  the $1.2                                                                    
million  increment for  Coding  in  Minecraft licenses.  She                                                                    
asked if  Representative Coulombe had heard  direct feedback                                                                    
from school districts about the increment.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe responded  that she  had not  heard                                                                    
directly from school districts but  there were concerns from                                                                    
subcommittee members that the program  was set up with funds                                                                    
related to the  COVID-19 pandemic. The goal  was to continue                                                                    
the program  using unrestricted  general funds  (UGF). There                                                                    
were several subcommittee members  who discussed the idea of                                                                    
finding cheaper  ways for students to  access Minecraft. She                                                                    
understood  the  software  itself  would cost  about  $5  to                                                                    
purchase and there  were concerns as to why  the program was                                                                    
so  expensive   when  the  software  was   inexpensive.  The                                                                    
department had explained that there  was an upgraded version                                                                    
that helped  train teachers how  to teach the  programs. The                                                                    
consensus  of the  subcommittee was  that the  increment was                                                                    
too expensive  and school  districts could  access Minecraft                                                                    
in other ways.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked if there was  discussion on the                                                                    
amount  of  money that  had  already  been invested  in  the                                                                    
program. She understood that  school districts had purchased                                                                    
a significant  amount of equipment and  trained teachers but                                                                    
a  school  could  only  use   the  equipment  if  it  became                                                                    
certified.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  replied that her  understanding was                                                                    
that there were  not many school districts  in the situation                                                                    
described  by  Representative  Hannan. She  understood  that                                                                    
DEED  had  begun setting  up  the  program  but it  had  not                                                                    
progressed far.  There were still  many questions  about how                                                                    
much the program needed to  cost and whether districts could                                                                    
find more efficient ways to run the program.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  suggested   that  the  Legislative                                                                    
Finance   Division  (LFD)   respond   in   more  detail   to                                                                    
Representative  Ortiz's earlier  question about  the funding                                                                    
for academic assessments.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:51:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CONOR  BELL, FISCAL  ANALYST, LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE DIVISION,                                                                    
introduced himself and asked  Representative Ortiz to repeat                                                                    
his earlier question.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz asked  how much of an  increase was the                                                                    
$650,000 increment  for statewide assessments from  what was                                                                    
already in place.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bell responded he would  follow up with the committee on                                                                    
the  exact  dollar  amount  for  the  existing  funding.  He                                                                    
explained that  the cost for  assessment had  increased over                                                                    
time while the amount of  federal funding had remained flat.                                                                    
The assessments  had been supported  by COVID-19  funds over                                                                    
the last  few years  but the federal  funding was  no longer                                                                    
available and  the increased cost  of assessments  needed to                                                                    
be addressed with other funds.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:52:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson understood  that  the funding  for                                                                    
hunter  education  was in  the  base.  He  asked if  he  was                                                                    
correct.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bell responded in the affirmative.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  asked  if the  appropriation  was                                                                    
new.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bell  responded in the affirmative.  There were existing                                                                    
programs for hunter education within  the Department of Fish                                                                    
and Game  (DFG). The appropriation  in the  education budget                                                                    
was for  competitive grants for school  districts for hunter                                                                    
education  programs.   The  districts  would   submit  grant                                                                    
applications to receive funding for hunter education.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Ortiz   referred   to  the   $1.5   million                                                                    
allocation for  teacher recruitment and retention.  He asked                                                                    
how  the funding  would help  with  teacher recruitment  and                                                                    
retention.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bell responded  that the  $1.5  million allocation  was                                                                    
focused  on  a  few  items that  came  from  the  governor's                                                                    
working group  on Alaska teacher recruitment  and retention.                                                                    
The  group  released  a  playbook report  in  2023  and  the                                                                    
recommendations  were  based  upon  the  report.  There  was                                                                    
funding  for  the  following:   surveying  teachers  on  job                                                                    
satisfaction and  on the reasons  why teachers  were leaving                                                                    
the  state,   creating  marketing  materials   to  advertise                                                                    
teaching  in  Alaska, and  other  activities  that aimed  to                                                                    
promote teaching in the state as a career opportunity.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:55:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   acknowledged   that   multiyear                                                                    
appropriations  were common;  however,  there were  specific                                                                    
requirements  for multiyear  appropriations.  The state  had                                                                    
been sued  in the  past when  it had  tried to  implement an                                                                    
overly large  multiyear appropriation  for the  Base Student                                                                    
Allocation  (BSA)  several  years  prior. He  asked  if  the                                                                    
requirement was that the funding  could not be anticipatory.                                                                    
He asked  how the requirements for  multiyear appropriations                                                                    
worked.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bell responded that he  would defer to Legislative Legal                                                                    
Services  (LLS)   for  more  details.  The   entirety  of  a                                                                    
multiyear appropriation  would be appropriated in  the first                                                                    
year  and  the  department  could  spend  the  money  across                                                                    
multiple  years;  however,  the legislature  would  need  to                                                                    
appropriate the  money first.  For example,  the legislature                                                                    
would  need  to appropriate  funding  in  FY 25  before  the                                                                    
department  could  spend  the appropriation  in  FY  26  and                                                                    
beyond. The  legislature could  not create  an appropriation                                                                    
that would  force a  forthcoming legislature  to appropriate                                                                    
the money because it would  inhibit the appropriating powers                                                                    
of   subsequent   legislatures.   The   funding   would   be                                                                    
appropriated in  FY 24 and  the department would have  FY 25                                                                    
and FY 26 to spend the money.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:57:30 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:58:05 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:58:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Morledge read through the finance subcommittee                                                                              
recommendations for the Department of Public Safety                                                                             
(DPS)(copy on file):                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The Finance  Budget Subcommittee for the  Department of                                                                    
     Public  Safety  reviewed  the  Governor's  FY25  budget                                                                    
     proposal  and recommends  the  items  contained in  the                                                                    
     below details.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     RECOMMENDATIONS:                                                                                                           
     Fund Source: (dollars are in thousands)                                                                                    
     Unrestricted General Funds (UGF) $255,594.2                                                                                
     Designated General Funds (DGF) $9,333.8                                                                                    
     Other Funds $14,241.4                                                                                                      
     Federal Funds $40,916.3                                                                                                    
     Total $320,085.7                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Compared to  the FY25  adjusted base,  the subcommittee                                                                    
     recommendations represent  an increase of  $11,174.8 in                                                                    
     UFG  (4.6%),  $-153.8  in DGF  (-1.67%),  $-2,335.8  in                                                                    
     other funds  (-14.1%), and  $1,725.0 (4.4%)  in Federal                                                                    
     Funds, for a total increase of $10,410.2 (3.4%).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Positions:                                                                                                                 
     Permanent Full-Time 1001                                                                                                   
     Permanent Part-Time 12                                                                                                     
     Temporary 30                                                                                                               
     Total 1,043                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     BUDGET ACTION:                                                                                                             
     After   holding  four   meetings   and  reviewing   and                                                                    
     discussing    each   of    the   Governor's    proposed                                                                    
     transactions  in detail,  the subcommittee  adopted all                                                                    
     items   by   unanimous   consent   before   taking   up                                                                    
     amendments.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     It is the  intent of the Chair to  recommend the budget                                                                    
     item  for  Alaska  State  Trooper  clothing,  uniforms,                                                                    
     tools, and safety gear, move  from the language section                                                                    
     of the budget to the  numbers section, and changed to a                                                                    
     one-time  item (IncOTI),  so the  legislature can  more                                                                    
     accurately   assess  ongoing   annual   costs  in   the                                                                    
     department's budget.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Some highlights of the items are:                                                                                          
         $56.3  for  Alaska  State  Trooper  applicants  to                                                                  
          cover air travel costs who  advance to the testing                                                                    
          process  and  who  are  not  on  the  Alaska  Road                                                                    
          system.                                                                                                               
         $147.0    for    three   vehicles    to    replace                                                                  
          decommissioned vehicles used for inmate travel.                                                                       
         $698.5  for three  child  crimes Investigators  in                                                                  
          Bethel.                                                                                                               
         $450.1    for    two    long-term    non-permanent                                                                  
          Investigators for Missing  and Murdered Indigenous                                                                    
          Persons.                                                                                                              
         $154.1 for  a Criminal Justice Planner  to oversee                                                                  
          the tactical and  administrative functions related                                                                    
          to the Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS).                                                                                
         $3,499.8 added  for 10  new Village  Public Safety                                                                  
          Officers, bringing the total to 80.                                                                                   
         A new Victims' Services  Division has been created                                                                  
          within the Department of Public Safety.                                                                               
         $67.0  for a  Crime  Data Portal  for the  public,                                                                  
          media, and academia to find crime data reporting                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     SUBCOMMITTEE AMENDMENTS:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The   Chair  set   an   amendment  deadline,   welcomed                                                                    
     amendments   from  all   members,  and   the  committee                                                                    
     entertained  five  amendments,   three  of  which  were                                                                    
     adopted.                                                                                                                   
         The subcommittee  removed a request for  $75.0 for                                                                  
          additional Digital Evidence Management Storage                                                                        
         The  subcommittee  removed  $193.3 for  a  Program                                                                  
          Manager  for recruitment  efforts, leaving  intact                                                                    
          the  funding for  Alaska  State Trooper  applicant                                                                    
          travel for testing.                                                                                                   
         The   subcommittee    removed   $178.4    for   an                                                                  
          Administrative Investigator for  the Alaska Police                                                                    
          Standards Council.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ATTACHED REPORTS:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The House Finance Budget Subcommittee for the                                                                              
     Department of Public Safety adopted the attached                                                                           
     reports:                                                                                                                   
         Agency Totals                                                                                                       
         Transaction Compare: Adjusted Base+ to House                                                                        
          Subcom                                                                                                                
        Transaction Compare: GovAmd to House Subcom                                                                          
         Wordage                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:03:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  if  the first  page of  the                                                                    
report should  state "compared to  the FY 24  adjusted base"                                                                    
instead of the  FY 25 adjusted base. He noted  that the DEED                                                                    
closeout report also said FY 25 rather than FY 24.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Morledge responded  that  Representative Josephson  was                                                                    
correct  and  both  reports  should say  FY  24.  She  would                                                                    
correct the error.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  for  a  description of  the                                                                    
subcommittee's   discussion   on   the  decision   to   pass                                                                    
amendments that  would remove funding for  a program manager                                                                    
position and an administrative investigator position.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  responded that there was  a request                                                                    
for  a  new  administrative investigator  position  for  the                                                                    
Police  Standards  Council  (PSC).   She  relayed  that  the                                                                    
council   was  not   investigating   crimes,   but  it   was                                                                    
investigating officers.  In 2022,  there were  50 complaints                                                                    
about  officers but  only 33  of the  complaints were  being                                                                    
investigated. The  subcommittee felt  that the  workload was                                                                    
manageable but  if the council  felt overwhelmed,  the issue                                                                    
could  be addressed  in the  following year.  The department                                                                    
had  been successful  in  recruiting  Alaska State  Troopers                                                                    
(AST)  and  there were  presently  two  Human Resource  (HR)                                                                    
consultants  working  in   the  commissioner's  office.  The                                                                    
subcommittee  determined  that  a program  manager  was  not                                                                    
needed for there to be successful recruitment efforts.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:05:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked if there was  discussion around                                                                    
the cost  of $250,000 per non-permanent  officer as compared                                                                    
to  the cost  of Village  Public Safety  Officers (VPSO)  at                                                                    
about $350,000 each.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  responded   that  VPSOs  had  more                                                                    
training   and   were   more  skilled   than   non-permanent                                                                    
investigators.   The    non-permanent   investigators   were                                                                    
responsible  for efforts  surrounding  Missing and  Murdered                                                                    
Indigenous Persons  and received  a $2.50 per  hour increase                                                                    
in pay.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin   asked    why   the   investigators                                                                    
responsible  for  Missing  and Murdered  Indigenous  Persons                                                                    
efforts were non-permanent.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  replied that  the intention  was to                                                                    
recruit retired troopers.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  asked  about the  victim's  services                                                                    
appropriation.  She   noted  that  there  was   funding  for                                                                    
victim's services  navigators, but wondered who  the victims                                                                    
would be navigated towards.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  responded  there   was  a  lot  of                                                                    
discussion  around the  issues.  The  funding decreased  but                                                                    
there  were  three  new  employees  in  the  prior  year  to                                                                    
distribute  the  funding.  The topic  was  still  in  active                                                                    
discussion with  the department and she  thought there might                                                                    
be some forthcoming changes. She  did not think that funding                                                                    
for   administrative  positions   should   be  added   while                                                                    
potentially taking  away money from victims.  She reiterated                                                                    
that  it was  a  concern that  had been  brought  up in  the                                                                    
subcommittee process.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Coulombe   requested   that   LFD   clarify                                                                    
Representative Josephson's earlier  comment about the fiscal                                                                    
year for  the adjusted base.  She wanted to  clarify whether                                                                    
the fiscal year needed to be corrected.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson understood that the year was correct.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:10:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MORGAN FOSS,  FISCAL ANALYST, LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE DIVISION,                                                                    
responded that the  division compared the FY  25 budget with                                                                    
the  FY  25  adjusted  base  and  the  finance  subcommittee                                                                    
recommendations report  was correct and  did not need  to be                                                                    
changed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  asked how the FY  25 adjusted base                                                                    
could be known.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Foss  responded  that  the  FY  25  adjusted  base  was                                                                    
referenced in LFD's  reports and the figures  were built off                                                                    
of the  governor's subcommittee book  request. She  asked if                                                                    
Representative  Josephson  would  like  to  hear  the  exact                                                                    
numbers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  responded  in  the  negative  and                                                                    
noted that he would discuss it  with Ms. Foss outside of the                                                                    
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^DEPARTMENT   OF   COMMERCE,    COMMUNITY,   AND   ECCOMONIC                                                                  
DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:11:18 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:12:59 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LAIB ALLENSWORTH,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE BRYCE  EDGMON, read                                                                    
the finance subcommittee  recommendations for the Department                                                                    
of  Commerce, Community,  and  Economic Development  (DCCED)                                                                    
(copy on file):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The   House  Finance   Budget   Subcommittee  for   the                                                                    
     Department   of  Commerce,   Community,  and   Economic                                                                    
     Development met a  total of five times  and submits the                                                                    
     following  recommendations  with  no changes  from  the                                                                    
     Governor's  Amended request  for  the operating  budget                                                                    
     for FY25 to the House Finance Committee:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     RECOMMENDATIONS: (Dollars in Thousands)                                                                                    
     Fund Source:                                                                                                               
     Unrestricted General Funds (UGF) $10,775.9                                                                                 
     Designated General Funds (DGF) $64,308.8                                                                                   
     Other Funds $62,877.5                                                                                                      
     Federal Funds $35,641.6                                                                                                    
     Total $173,603.8                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Compared to  the FY25  adjusted base,  the subcommittee                                                                    
     recommendations  represent an  increase of  $0.00 (+0%)                                                                    
     in Unrestricted  General Funds,  an increase  of $909.9                                                                    
     (+1.4%)  in Designated  General Funds,  an increase  of                                                                    
     $6,685.4 (+11.9%) in other funds, and an increase of                                                                       
     $4,050. (+12.8%) in Federal Funds.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Positions:                                                                                                                 
     Permanent Full-time 560                                                                                                    
     Permanent Part-time 0                                                                                                      
     Temporary 22                                                                                                               
     Total 582                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     BUDGET ACTION:                                                                                                             
     After reviewing and  discussing the Governor's proposed                                                                    
     transactions  in detail,  the subcommittee  adopted all                                                                    
     items by unanimous consent. There  were no increases or                                                                    
     decreases to the FY25 Governor's Request.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          Some Items of Note:                                                                                                   
              A total of approximately $1.56 million in                                                                      
               CIP   receipt   authority  for   the   Alaska                                                                    
               Broadband office to  support their growth and                                                                    
               implementation  of  various projects  related                                                                    
               to Broadband, Equity,  Access, and Deployment                                                                    
               program.  These  are  largely  Federal  Funds                                                                    
               coming through the Capital budget.                                                                               
              $4 million in federal receipt authority for                                                                    
               Serve   Alaska   to  manage   grant   funding                                                                    
               staggered over  multiple years and  to pursue                                                                    
               additional federal grants.                                                                                       
              Approximately $1.25 in CIP receipt authority                                                                   
               for the Alaska  Energy Authority Rural Energy                                                                    
               Assistance  allocation  for  7  positions  to                                                                    
               support various  capital projects  related to                                                                    
               federal IIJA funds.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Subcommittee Amendments:                                                                                                   
     The Chair set an amendment deadline, welcomed                                                                              
     amendments from all members, and the committee                                                                             
     received no amendments.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Attached Reports:                                                                                                          
              DCCED Agency Totals                                                                                            
              DCCED Transaction Compare: Adjusted Base +                                                                     
               to House Subcom                                                                                                  
              Wordage                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon noted that there were no questions from                                                                         
committee members and suggested that Mr. Allensworth                                                                            
continue to the next report.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:16:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Allensworth read through the finance subcommittee                                                                           
recommendations for the Department of Corrections (DOC)                                                                         
(copy on file):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The   House  Finance   Budget   Subcommittee  for   the                                                                    
     Department   of  Corrections   submits  the   following                                                                    
     recommended following  recommendations with  no changes                                                                    
     from the  Governor's Amended request for  the operating                                                                    
     budget for FY25 to the House Finance Committee                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     RECOMMENDATIONS:                                                                                                           
     Fund Source: (dollars are in thousands)                                                                                    
     Unrestricted General Funds (UGF) $407,552.2                                                                                
     Designated General Funds (DGF) $14,813.2                                                                                   
     Other Funds $10,358.7                                                                                                      
     Federal Funds $17,928.6                                                                                                    
     Total $450,652.7                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Compared  to  the   FY25  adjusted  base,  subcommittee                                                                    
     recommendations  represent  a   increase  of  $31,841.2                                                                    
     (+8.5%) in  Unrestricted General Funds, an  increase of                                                                    
     $375.0 (+2.6%) in Designated  General Funds, a decrease                                                                    
     of $12,531.2 (-54.7%) in Other  Funds, and no change in                                                                    
     Federal  Funds  for  a   total  increase  of  $19,685.0                                                                    
     (+4.6%) in all funds.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Positions:                                                                                                                 
     Permanent Full-time 2,124                                                                                                  
     Permanent Part-time 0                                                                                                      
     Temporary 0                                                                                                                
     Total 2,124                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     BUDGET ACTION:                                                                                                             
     The   House  Finance   Budget   Subcommittee  for   the                                                                    
     Department  of  Corrections  reviewed the  FY25  budget                                                                    
     request  and adopted  all items  by unanimous  consent,                                                                    
     with the addition of intent language.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Some of the highlights of these items are: (dollars                                                                        
     are in thousands)                                                                                                          
         A $5,450.0 increase in the Population Management                                                                    
          Appropriation to  address increased  costs related                                                                    
          to  increased   costs  of   commodities,  employee                                                                    
          overtime, and employee onboarding.                                                                                    
         A $4,235.0 increase to Pre-Trial Services                                                                           
          associated   with   the  Behavioral   Intervention                                                                    
          Contract  costs increasing  due to  the number  of                                                                    
          persons  being  placed on  electronic  monitoring,                                                                    
          costs associated with  lost and damaged equipment,                                                                    
          and  to cover  contractual services  for Anchorage                                                                    
          municipal placements.                                                                                                 
         Added intent language directing the directing the                                                                   
          Department to  work with Office of  Management and                                                                    
          Budget  and the  Legislative  Finance Division  to                                                                    
          develop  a  budgetary  projection  model  for  the                                                                    
          agency  before   December  20th,  2024   and  also                                                                    
          directs  the  department   to  accurately  reflect                                                                    
          expected   expenditures  as   supported  by   this                                                                    
          projection model.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ATTACHED REPORTS:                                                                                                          
     The House Finance Budget Subcommittee for the                                                                              
     Department of Corrections adopted the attached                                                                             
     reports:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
         DOC Agency Totals                                                                                                   
         DOC Transaction Compare: Adjusted Base to House                                                                     
          Subcom                                                                                                                
         Wordage                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:18:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  referenced  a request  to  replace                                                                    
$5.6 million  of restorative justice  funds (RJF)  with UGF.                                                                    
She asked for an explanation of the context.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Allensworth  responded that the RJF  were funded through                                                                    
Permanent  Fund  Dividends (PFD)  that  would  have gone  to                                                                    
incarcerated  individuals. Considering  the reduced  size of                                                                    
the PFD in the prior  year, there were fewer funds available                                                                    
and UGF was necessary to cover operational costs.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe noted  that  RJF went  up and  down                                                                    
frequently. She asked if there  was an expectation as to why                                                                    
the funding needed to be  supplemented if the RJF funds were                                                                    
not sufficient.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon suggested that LFD respond to the question.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ALEXEI  PAINTER,  DIRECTOR,  LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE  DIVISION,                                                                    
responded  that  all of  the  uses  of  RJF apart  from  the                                                                    
capitalization  of  the  Crime  Victims'  Compensation  Fund                                                                    
(CVCF) were  essentially replacing UGF. When  RJF increased,                                                                    
UGF  was  displaced by  RJF,  and  when RJF  decreased,  UGF                                                                    
displaced RJF.  The only additive  item was CVCF,  which was                                                                    
ranked  as  the  top  priority   for  RJF  in  statute.  The                                                                    
department's  costs would  not  fluctuate  depending on  the                                                                    
availability of the fund source.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  thought it  sounded like  there had                                                                    
been  a pattern.  She understood  that operations  would not                                                                    
change  depending upon  the  fund source  but  she found  it                                                                    
interesting  that  there  was a  replacement  for  RJF.  She                                                                    
thought it seemed as though  there was an expectation that a                                                                    
certain amount of  funding needed to originate  from RJF and                                                                    
if there  was not enough  funding available to  cover costs,                                                                    
UGF would make up for the discrepancy.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter responded that statute  dictated that 79 percent                                                                    
to 88  percent of RJF may  be appropriated to DOC.  Both the                                                                    
FY 24 and FY 25  budgets appropriated the 79 percent minimum                                                                    
to DOC. The statute was designed  so that the funds would be                                                                    
allocated to various  purposes and RJF would  be replaced as                                                                    
needed with UGF as RJF increased and decreased.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:22:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin understood  the  intent language  for                                                                    
building a projection  model and she thought  it made sense.                                                                    
She was curious  if funds were needed in order  to build the                                                                    
model.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Allensworth replied that the  direction to work with the                                                                    
Office of Management  and Budget (OMB) and  LFD would absorb                                                                    
the costs of  building the projection model and  was part of                                                                    
the intent language.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  added that the  DOC subcommittee  met three                                                                    
times and it  spoke at length about increased  costs and the                                                                    
increase  in  UGF.  The  increase   in  costs  for  facility                                                                    
maintenance,  overtime,   and  the  personnel   health  care                                                                    
trajectory had  been well-managed.  The committee  wanted to                                                                    
ensure  that  DOC would  return  with  reassurance that  the                                                                    
increased  costs  would  not continue  because  it  was  not                                                                    
sustainable.  He relayed  that  the increased  cost was  the                                                                    
item that  received the most discussion  in subcommittee. In                                                                    
the past, health care had  been the most pressing topic, but                                                                    
it had been managed well in recent years.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  for an  explanation of  the                                                                    
decrease in "other" funds.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Allensworth  responded that the decrease  in other funds                                                                    
represented the decrease in RJF and the replacement by UGF.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson thought  the replacement  was $5.6                                                                    
million but  the subcommittee recommendations  report showed                                                                    
$12.5 million.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  responded  that  the   $5.6  million  was  the                                                                    
replacement in one area and  the remainder was a replacement                                                                    
in  a  different  area.  The  replacement  happened  in  two                                                                    
places: physical health care  and institutions. The combined                                                                    
total was $12.5 million in replaced funds.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:25:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  asked if  the budget was  protected in                                                                    
statute.  He  wondered  if  there   had  been  debate  about                                                                    
potentially continuing the  pattern of increases year-after-                                                                    
year. He  asked if  it was the  statutory obligation  of the                                                                    
legislature to increase  the DOC budget. He  wondered if the                                                                    
legislature was  bound by statue to  fulfill the obligations                                                                    
and there was no reason to discuss any other option.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  responded in the affirmative.  He explained                                                                    
that DOC  had been  offering bonuses, but  it still  had not                                                                    
been  able to  avoid  paying overtime  to senior  employees.                                                                    
There  were  a  number  of  increases  in  Alaska,  such  as                                                                    
operational costs for halfway  houses. He suggested that Mr.                                                                    
Allensworth add more detail.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Allensworth added  that the  services  provided by  the                                                                    
department  were  constitutionally  mandated.  The  services                                                                    
provided were  under the purview  of the department  and the                                                                    
legislature and there was a  level of care that was demanded                                                                    
and  there  were  increased costs  for  programs  that  were                                                                    
statutorily mandatory.  The management  of the  increase was                                                                    
dependent upon the legislature and the department.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  noted that all  costs were  increasing, and                                                                    
DOC was  almost exclusively funded  by UGF. He  thought that                                                                    
if  costs were  reduced,  the costs  would  reappear in  the                                                                    
following year's supplemental.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:28:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin commented  that  the restrictions  of                                                                    
the pandemic  proved that  it was  possible to  conduct many                                                                    
activities  virtually,  which  could  reduce  transportation                                                                    
costs. She wondered  if there could be cost  savings if some                                                                    
practices were conducted virtually.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Allensworth responded  that there  were no  discussions                                                                    
about the  potential cost  savings of  conducting activities                                                                    
virtually during  the subcommittee  process. He  would speak                                                                    
with DOC and follow up with more information.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  indicated  that  the  department  had  not                                                                    
indicated  that conducting  practices virtually  was a  cost                                                                    
savings measure, though he was  sure that it saved money. He                                                                    
asked if Mr. Painter had any additional comments.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  replied that the transportation  cost increases                                                                    
were  related to  the  partial closure  of  the Lemon  Creek                                                                    
Correctional Center.  Many inmates had to  be transferred to                                                                    
Juneau for court appearances, which was a costly endeavor.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  understood that the  discussion about                                                                    
transportation  cost savings  was  within  the Alaska  Court                                                                    
System which  was now  conducting many  pre-trial screenings                                                                    
virtually rather than  transporting incarcerated individuals                                                                    
to the courthouse.  She noted that the  savings would appear                                                                    
in the  court's budget  and not DOC's  budget. In  the prior                                                                    
year, the DOC  health care costs were  projected to decrease                                                                    
due to a  new dialysis unit in the  facilities. The dialysis                                                                    
unit was  successful, but other health  care costs continued                                                                    
to escalate, and expected heath care costs were incorrect.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HB  268  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  270  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:31:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon reviewed the agenda for the afternoon's                                                                         
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:32:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 9:32 a.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
DPS Budget Narrative Report 3.1.24.pdf HFIN 3/4/2024 8:30:00 AM
HB 268
DPS HSub Closeout - Agency Totals.pdf HFIN 3/4/2024 8:30:00 AM
HB 268
DPS BA Sheet - Closeout - Final.pdf HFIN 3/4/2024 8:30:00 AM
HB 268
DPS HSub Closeout - Wordage.pdf HFIN 3/4/2024 8:30:00 AM
HB 268
DPS-TransactionCompare1.pdf HFIN 3/4/2024 8:30:00 AM
HB 268
DPS-TransactionCompare2.pdf HFIN 3/4/2024 8:30:00 AM
HB 268
DEED BA Sheet - Closeout - Final.pdf HFIN 3/4/2024 8:30:00 AM
HB 268
DOE-AgencyTotals.pdf HFIN 3/4/2024 8:30:00 AM
HB 268
DOE-TransactionCompare1.pdf HFIN 3/4/2024 8:30:00 AM
HB 268
DOE-TransactionCompare2.pdf HFIN 3/4/2024 8:30:00 AM
HB 268
DOE-Wordage.pdf HFIN 3/4/2024 8:30:00 AM
HB 268
DEED FY25 Subcommittee Closeout Narrative 3.3.24.pdf HFIN 3/4/2024 8:30:00 AM
HB 268